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Clay banks, Ericaceous plants

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I would appreciate any thoughts, help and suggestions you may have on this project.

I'm making a "banked" garden out of gabions (mesh cages) filled with concrete and brick rubble from recent build and then clay, from footing, backed against it. Part of the planting I want to do is ericaceous.

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Gabions

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Clay piled against gabions. Topsoil pile (far right) and smaller pile of "rubble/soil mix" to the left of it.

Imagine, if you can given the Building Site state of the photos!, that this will be a semi-circular banked "end" to the garden room. My plan was to put some additional gabions around the curve, and then fill, in front of them, with (bought-in) ericaceous soil. This will keep it's cost to a minimum. My thought was to only fill those gabions with bricks, as I presume that borken concrete would be alkaline, and hopefully bricks will be "inert"?

The rubble pile has lots of both topsoil and clay mixed in. Once we have manually taken out all the decent sized rubble for the gabions we are left with a mix of fine clay and topsoil and lots of small rubble (tennis ball sized or smaller). My thought was to spread this over the clay banks in the expectation that it will improve drainage.

Then my plan was to put back all the topsoil on top of that, together with plenty of muck. I have plenty of both, so should be able to do at least a foot of covering.

The ericaceous soil, on the semi-circular bank in front of the isolating gabions, will just be ericaceous (although I may add some peat). I plan to plant this with a bank of Azaleas - something that, ordinarily, we cannot grow here.

Behind the ericaceous bank will be the clay bank (i.e. once covered with drainage-layer and topsoil/muck), and extending higher up, and also with a winding path through it, coming "downhill", I plan to plant Inkarho Rhododendrons, that are lime-tolerant. I plan to add peat to the topsoil to make it more Rhododendron friendly, and also retain moisture in summer.

I also want to plant some Acers around the clay banks. My thought was to excavate a reasonable "pit" and fill with ericaceous soil to give them some help.

There will be a winding path from the highest point of the bank (which will be raised by about 2.5M above normal ground level). My guess is that the path should be 3' wide, my plan was to use the JCB to level a 6' wide path, buy in some decent sized "rocks" that will be about 1' high by 1' deep, line the path with that and then put my topsoil behind that. That will give me an instant 1' height start to the beds on the banks which will mean the plants have 1' less growing to do before they are useful! They need to be 6' tall along the winding path so that it is not possible to see "Into" the garden until you have come right down the path and are "in" it. I also thought that the rocks would stop the banks washing down / collapsing onto the path.

I hope I have explained that well enough? If not please ask any questions. Thanks for you help, its my most grand scheme yet! and it would obviously help if, with you help, I can get it right-first-time.

The effect I'm wanting to create is similar to the Japanese garden at Compton Acres (in Dorset):

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and I also like the look of photos I've seen of the Azaleas at Isabella Plantation, Richmond Park

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Re: Clay banks, Ericaceous plants

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Just remembered I posted a thread about this earlier in the year.

http://www.pushingtheborders.com/phpBB/ ... =536#p3465

You made useful suggestions of gardens in UK that are worth a look, and I will revisit their websites to get some ideas. At the moment my thoughts are about creating a "reasonable" soil for the plants to grow in. Apart from possible leaching of alkaline into the ericaceous bad (hopefully prevents by a barrier wall of Gabions filled with bricks?) I think I'm happy with the very front of the bank using pure ericaceous soil for Azaleas, so its just the rest of the planting, behind, and whether my idea of enriched topsoil over clay sub-soil-spoil is going to be OK.
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P.S. The banked end will face South - i.e. the photos of gabions / clay banks is taken facing North. Not sure this much sun is good for Azaleas? I'm planning on a mix of Deciduous and Evergreen varieties.
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You certainly dont do things by halves do you! :) Not sure if its any help but I have been building walls here for several years now and I am always concerned about the amount of morter and leaching from the concrete that may occur so when first preparing the beds I fork in a liberal sprinkle of Sulfur which I am led to believe will lower the PH gently
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Progress report

Previously:

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Start of weekend: second layer of gabions filling up nicely with rubble.

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More clay carted for "modelling". Its difficult ("lumpy") to work with ...

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I am presently desperately trying to finish a wall project I started earlier this year and feeling like the mess and disruption has gone on far too long, your post has cheered me up no end! :)
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:lol:

It all looked nice and tidy with the gabions filled with rubble ... before I then piled up the clay!

Planning to let it settle over the winter before putting the topsoil back on top. Hoping that, with some winter and frost, it will be easier to "scrape" the banked clay to a smooth slope and then put the topsoil onto it. I have no idea how to tip a dumper of topsoil and apply and even foot of top soil ... or how to smooth out a pile of topsoil without digging into the clay. I've done a fair bit of JCB-ing on my time, but the regular pros make it look much easier!
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Work has resumed. Weeds invaded over the winter, although a course of Glyphosate has kept them in check

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Clay smoothed out, a 4" layer of "shale" (mix of small rubble, top soil and "dust" from where we separated out the decent rubble for the Gabions) added, which will hopefully provide a drainage layer, and then the topsoil put back on top. Considering how heavy my topsoil is, it doesn't look / feel too bad. I suspect being piled up over winter, and created from the top 8" which was partly turf, will have composted to create some Loam over the winter)

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I need some granite blocks, along the pathways, so I can then grade the topsoil down to them (and they will provide an instant 12"-gain of depth for the banked soil.
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I do love the idea of gardening with machines, I can't get even a mini digger in here, probably just as well - but :mrgreen:
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I've been doing all sorts of time-consuming, strenuous, jobs (displacement activity!!)

"Turned" the compost heap yesterday ... good job I was in machinery as there was a wasp's nest in there ... abandoned digger and dumper for a few hours until they calmed down.

Banked up the leaf mould, moved some useless piles of chippings that the tree surgeon left behind. I don't put them on paths as they start to rot quickly enough that weeds get a hold, and consequently there are a few piles dotted about ... I read somewhere the suggestion to use them, sparingly, on the compost heap as "browns", so I've aggregated all the here-and-there piles into one monster by the compost heap, and will spoon some on now and then.

Doing to re-dig the ditch a bit tonight so that the Cesspit outfall can flow away more easily ...
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